What no one tells you about being an expat in Southeast Asia
It seems like its more popular than ever to be an expat in Southeast Asia. Maybe I just think that because I spend so much time in this part of the world. So my bias might lead me to see more on the subject. But one thing I don’t see much is any truthful reporting on all the negatives involved.
And I’m not talking about being an expat on the company dime either. So this isn’t about the handful of bankers who get extra pay for the hazards of living on Embassy Row or anything like that. I am sure that has its cons too. Including some of what I am going to write below. But I am mainly talking about the so-called digital nomad lifestyle.
I’ve been living well from online income for years. And I spend a lot of time in Southeast Asia. So I speak from experience. You don’t have to pay attention to my words. But before you sell everything and move to Pai to start your million dollar travel blog idea, you might want to at least read this.
Is being a digital nomad legal?
Lots of people and websites will tell you how great the digital nomad lifestyle is. And while it has its perks, it’s not all sweetness and light. Especially in Southeast Asia. Yet there’s no shortage of people telling you to move to Chiang Mai and make money from your computer.
One thing these self-promoting digital nomads never mention is that some of what they talk about is actually illegal. For example, there’s really no way to be a digital nomad in Thailand without breaking the law. At least not on any kind of long term basis.
Simply put, there is no visa for digital nomads in Thailand. As a foreigner, you aren’t technically allowed to work on a tourist visa or a visa waiver in Thailand. And they don’t give work permits to digital nomads even if they’re on another kind of visa. You need a Thai company to put on the application. And you don’t have one.
Back in 2014, the immigration police raided a coworking space in Chiang Mai. I bet a lot of the foreigners there were caught by surprise. I wasn’t. Because I don’t go to those kind of places. And also because I know there’s no visa for digital nomads in Thailand. Or most other countries in Southeast Asia.
There are no visas for digital nomads in any country really. At most you can slide through a gray area. At worst, you get caught up in a raid. And forget about settling down too. Because as a foreigner, you can’t own land in most Southeast Asian countries.
The weather sucks and it stinks
A lot of people will talk about how great the weather is in Southeast Asia. They won’t tell you that it’s outrageously hot and humid for a lot of the year. And outrageously wet most of the other times. The weather is only really comfortable for a couple of weeks. So it’s like anywhere else.
You won’t see any pictures of people wading through waist-high sewage or choking on exhaust fumes on Digital Nomad blogs. But you will experience that if you spend enough time here. Bangkok just spent months under alert for highly toxic air. Now Chiang Mai is having its annual battle with haze, and its reportedly one of the worst ever. This goes on every year. But don’t worry. In a couple more months there will be daily downpours that flood the streets and make it tough to get around.
In Ho Chi Minh City it’s nothing to get stuck somewhere for hours while a monsoon rain blows through and fills the streets with water. Angeles City gets it too. And the same goes for Phnom Penh, where expats have actually crowd sourced maps to show which streets are impassable during the daily downpours.
And how about the smell? In Phnom Penh they pile the garbage up in the streets every day. It reeks, and the garbage workers don’t always pick it up. Sometimes they let it fester for days on end. But even that smells good compared to the open river of shit that flows through the middle of town.
Think that’s unique to Phnom Penh? Think again. There’s plenty of gray water in Saigon’s highly polluted rivers. And there’s a smaller stinky canal flowing through one of the most highly esteemed sections of Bangkok. And they all smell like shit.
You’ll lose internet, power, and maybe water too
Even if you can deal with the weather, the visa requirements, and the never ending deadly traffic, you will face a lot of other obstacles. Especially as a person who relies on their computer and the internet to make a living.
Internet speeds are still very low in Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia and the Philippines. They really aren’t all that hot in Thailand either. Sure you can get good speeds in Hong Kong and Singapore. But at those costs, you probably would be better off staying home.
And what about when the internet cuts out? Because that happens. In some places it happens a lot. One apartment I stayed in for several months had at least three to four outages a week. And most of them required me to call the service provider to get things going again. So much for the four hour work week!
I’ve been in plenty of Manila and Angeles City hotels with such weak internet that I couldn’t even connect. And I am talking about four and five star hotels here. Not cheap hostels for backpackers. Those must be even worse!
Don’t forget about electricity either. In the third world, power outages are just a regular part of life. I recently ended an extended stay in Cambodia because of this. A month of daily 6 to 8 hour power loss was the last straw for me. I was staying in a relatively expensive Phnom Penh condo with a generator. But the power was out so often that even that beastly machine broke down. Sitting in a 98 degree room with no air conditioner or fan is not my idea of a good time.
At least I wasn’t down in Sihanoukville. Because they had water outages along with the power loss. That’s right, no water in the pipes. Now there’s something you won’t see mentioned on many digital nomad blogs!
I work online so you don’t have to
As I said, I make a living through the internet. I’ve been doing it for years. And I earn more than an average income. But this website is only a very small part of what I do. I work just a few hours a week in general. But I also have to put up with all the stuff stated above.
Well, I don’t have to. I could leave here. And in fact I do just that several times every year. But something keeps pulling me back. Mostly it’s the women, to be honest. Then there are those other things that are hard to put a finger on. Like the fact that people don’t walk around with a chip on their shoulders here, which means I can relax more too. At least when the air conditioner works.
The truth is that I earn more than enough to live in America full time without taking on a full time job. So I spend time in Southeast Asia because I want to. In fact I started working online precisely because I wanted to escape the rat race back home and travel. It worked out for me, at least to some degree. But I wouldn’t recommend anyone try to follow my footsteps.
Sure you can try to do what I have done. I tend to think it’s a little late. Especially if you want to go the same route I did. But I don’t control you or anyone else. I am just trying to shed some light on little known aspects of being an expat in Asia. Take it into consideration if you want.
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You sound like a spoiled idiot. Do you even realize how petty your complaints are?
You have to smell shit *for a few minutes* in between banging gorgeous women on demand? Boo-hoo, poor thing. It’s not like you can simply avoid those streets. And it’s not like the locals have to smell the same air, while breaking their backs every day to make a few hundred bucks a month.
I’m sure you’d rather shovel the snow around your car every morning before driving an hour through traffic, on the way to your soul-sucking job that barely covers the bills, and masturbate yourself to sleep at night. You miss all that, don’t you?
Oh, but the internet isn’t fast enough!!! How will you ever survive???
Go fuck yourself…
Come on in bro. The waters perfect!
Sounds like someone is projecting. Shoveling snow in May? Where do you live, Siberia? No wonder you’re so bitter.
I lol’d.
Do you have any guides/e-books/articles to teach people to earn money online?
Hi David. I don’t have anything like that. I think most of that stuff is bogus. If someone made money why would they need to sell a book telling you about it? They’d already be making money. And why would they invite in competition? There definitely tons of ways to do it though. I haven’t had a real job in years. Good luck dude!
Well, that’s depressing to read! And just when I started considering moving to another country for at least a year. First I was thinking of the Philippines, but I don’t know – the girls don’t seem that goodlooking, and you’d be stuck with only Filipinas I guess. I was also thinking Central America, and I learned Spanish partly for that reason. But this post makes me wonder if I should go through the trouble at all.
It is just my feelings. Others might disagree. Don’t let me sway you one way or the other bro!
One way to work online, which I guess won’t help most readers here – I’m not American, so there’s a lot of work to do online related to the connection between my country and the U.S. And you can only do it if you speak both languages.
Thank you guys for giving us such an easy lingua franca. I speak four languages (not all on the same level), and English is absolutely the best one to have as an international language, so the world lucked out there. Smooth and pleasant – can’t say that about all languages. And always “the”, not different forms of that, thanks to the Danish Vikings simplifying the language because they didn’t have books when they learned it.
And the verbs don’t change depending on the speaker like in so many other languages. (In present form. And past form. And future form.) It’s only that extra -s in present form third person.
I wonder what that’s like in Asian languages. I heard about Chinese that they say “today I go to the city,” and “yesterday I go to the city,” and “tomorrow I go to the city”. Always the same verb form. Seems convenient.
But I digress!
If you’d like to write a post about non-sex stuff (such things exist) it would be interesting to hear about all the little details that come with changing countries. Like, do you have to buy a new converter for plugging in your computer in every country in Asia? What about Latin America? Is it always easy to find a good gym? How much do you travel with? What about laundry? Which is the noisiest country when you’re trying to sleep? Any difference in the airports? Do all the countries keep trees and plants along the streets in the cities? Where do people have the unhealthiest eating habits? I heard that in Hungary people can go out for coffee at ten in the evening, any other country like that? And so on.
Along with electricity, America has given the world the type A plug. It works in Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Philippines, Taiwan, Central America, Canada, the Caribbean, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru and Ecuador. That covers most of where I travel. If I go to South Korea, Myanmar or Europe I can buy a convertor and leave it there when I leave. But I usually stay in nice hotels that have the convertors on hand.
I use that for my phone. I don’t carry a computer. My phone connects to any television plus a bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
I usually keep $1000 in cash on me and my ATM cards let me take out more whenever I need it, anywhere I go.
Any decent hotel or condo has laundry services. They pick it up at your room and bring it back when it’s done. I haven’t washed my own clothes in 10+ years.
Every country is noisy except for Japan. But I stay in nice hotels so they are usually in better locations.
The whole world is unhealthy and fat now. I eat healthy but I don’t go to the gym because I’m not into sweaty guys.
People drink coffee at midnight in Vietnam. And it’s good and cheap.
I’ve thought about writing more of this kind of shit, but but there are already so many websites about traveling. Especially the digital nomad crap.
The only thing that makes me unique is my penis. And not even really that.
LOL!